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- From: jtv@xs4all.nl (Jeroen T. Vermeulen)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
- Subject: Re: ESCOM SHOWS ITS TRUE COLOURS!!
- Date: Wed, 17 Jan 96 19:26:11
- Organization: Leiden University, Mathematics & Computer Science, The Netherlands
- Message-ID: <19960117.7B53CC0.11385@asd03-01.dial.xs4all.nl>
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- In article <4ddmsc$2ui@willow.cc.kcl.ac.uk>
- Yoda <warrior@revenge.jedi.com> writes:
-
- > I have got better things to do with my time than to reply to
- > posts that nitpick on such things as choice of words used and
- > whether or not certain email addresses are valid. However, I'll
- > take the time to do so in this case, since you have totally
- > misunderstood my original post...
-
- If your post was seriously intended to inform the reader, I must apologise for
- overreacting myself. It was the immediate impression of all-caps title (venting
- a very outspoken opinion that wasn't fully explained in the post) and obviously
- fake mail address that caused me to think this was another "screamer" post.
-
- With being fully explained I mean: Why is it specifically Escom and not AT that
- you say shows its true colours?
-
-
- > >Overreacting a bit are we? At least you could have tried to refrain from
- > >shouting. And while I'm at it:
- >
- > The capitalization was there for the sake of *emphasis*, not
- > to indicate SHOUTING.
-
- What I was referring to was the fact that the subject line was in *all* caps.
- That's okay as a form of emphasis if you don't make the words too belligerent,
- but it shows up as shouting if you do.
-
- Religious matters aside, such a misunderstanding would not have occurred if your
- subject line had been more objective or informative if not less loud, ie. "bad
- news!" or "layoffs at AT-UK".
-
- And I *do* agree that it sounds like bad news, it's just that bad news has all
- too often come in MB-style "told you so!" posts and I interpreted your post as
- one of them. And some of those posts used real facts but slightly twisted to
- cause a maximum of grief.
-
-
- > >1. Giving a false mail address is _not nice_.
- >
- > This is a publicly accessible terminal set up to use the email
- > address it uses. I should point out that it is also not nice to
- > fingure out whether or not Usenet postings come with valid or
- > invalid mail addresses, and then publicly decry those that do
- > not. There are no rules - and if there were, there'd be nobody
- > to enforce them - to say that if some terminal providers choose
- > to remain anonymous, then that is "not nice".
-
- It doesn't take much figuring out that an address like warrior@revenge.jedi.com,
- from a poster calling himself Yoda, isn't real. Spams have return addresses
- like that. Besides I happened to note that it doesn't match the domain name in
- your message ID. As private investigations go, I think this one was pretty hard
- to avoid.
-
-
- > >2. "Revenge of the Jedi" was renamed long before its release. There's still
- > > some time to update your facts before the next movie arrives, but not much.
- >
- > Old news. Why has it not occured to you that perhaps the word "revenge" was
- > chosen deliberately, for whatever reason, rather than an attempt was being made
- > to remain faithful to the movie title?
-
- This was actually intended as a light note, and of course I assumed you were
- aware of the name change. But since you mention it, please try to be more
- clear. You said that the mail address for your account wasn't set up by you,
- implying that you couldn't help what address is in your message. And now you
- confront me with the possibility that you *did* set it up this way, to make a
- point?
-
- Why has it not occurred to me that the word was chosen on purpose, other than in
- reference to a Star Wars movie title? Perhaps most of all the fact that it was
- placed between the words `Yoda' and `Jedi', with `The Force' underneath.
-
- So okay, apparently my impression was wrong. But is that all my fault? I would
- say that your theme-oriented anonymous "net identity" and the Poag-style subject
- line combined very effectively to create that impression, whether you wanted
- them to or not.
-
-
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